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By Robert Stafford<br />The conversions between the firms using Sorenson Genomics and FTDNA have become quite complex with the former's use of ISGF nomenclature. Six markers are involved: DYS441, DYS442, DYS452, DYS463, Y-GATA-10 and Y-GATA-H4.<br /> to<span style="color:red;background-color:#fcc;"> http://www.smgf.org,</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> SMGF,</span> select the lab where testing was done (from lab), clear all values, enter the values for the six markers and then select the lab that you are converting to (to lab).<br />Note that FTDNA is not the same as Y-Search. If you are trying to convert results for Y-Search, select Relative Genetics as the to lab and subtract 1 from the resulting value at Y-GATA-H4. The RG values at SMGF follow their old nomenclature.<br />On 1 Aug 2007, Sorenson Genomics made changes for Ancestry.com for 5 of the 6 markers. On 23 Aug 2007, they added a change for DYS441. DNAHeritage followed suit in Dec 2007.<br />]]></description>
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<span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;">#SideBar,div.sidebar_v2 { display:none; }</span><br />By Robert Stafford<br />The conversions between the firms using Sorenson Genomics and FTDNA have become quite complex with the former's use of ISGF nomenclature. Six markers are involved: DYS441, DYS442, DYS452, DYS463, Y-GATA-10 and Y-GATA-H4.<br />]]></description>
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By Robert Stafford<br />
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The conversions between the firms using Sorenson Genomics and FTDNA have become quite complex with the former\'s use of ISGF nomenclature. Six markers are involved: DYS441, DYS442, DYS452, DYS463, Y-GATA-10 and Y-GATA-H4.<br />
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One way to do the conversions is to go to http://www.smgf.org, select the lab where testing was done (from lab), clear all values, enter the values for the six markers and then select the lab that you are converting to (to lab).<br />
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Note that FTDNA is not the same as Y-Search. If you are trying to convert results for Y-Search, select Relative Genetics as the to lab and subtract 1 from the resulting value at Y-GATA-H4. The RG values at SMGF follow their old nomenclature.<br />
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On 1 Aug 2007, Sorenson Genomics made changes for Ancestry.com for 5 of the 6 markers. On 23 Aug 2007, they added a change for DYS441. DNAHeritage followed suit in Dec 2007.<br />
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I think a lot of people are confused about this issue. When the Romans occupied Britain a couple of thousand years ago, they used the label \"Picti\" to refer to all the people north of their new walls (Hadrian\'s Wall, followed by the Antonine Wall), in the same way that any occupation army refers to all of their enemies as \"-------\" (whatever label). The name stuck & now people refer to the Picts as the ancient inhabitants of what is now Scotland. So anyone & everyone who is a descendant of the people who were living in Scotland when those \"Picts\" acquired their label, & before their culture & language of the Picts was assimilated into the modern nation of Scotland, is likewise a descendant of Picts, by simple definition. All that the name implies is the ancient inhabitants of Scotland. That would undoubtedly include many, many haplogroups & haplogroup subclades. We can reasonably suggest that haplogroup clusters that comprise a fairly large portion]]></description>
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If your {rarest} surname is not quite so rare, you may see several results. Look for the result on which the matrilineal names (listed beneath the result) match yours. Click on the 'Pedigree' symbol to the left of that result to determine that it is, indeed, yours.<br />Print out that screen, then click on Search Again. This time fill in some non-CRS values. In theory, there could be 3 other possible substitutions for a T (C or G or A), but in practice, the vast majority of substitutions will be C. You can search the GENEALOGY-DNA mailing list archives using the keywords 'transitions transversions' for more background on why this is so, but the substitutions will generally be back and forth between these pairs:<br />C<span style="color:red;background-color:#fcc;">  T</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> &amp;lt;-&amp;gt;</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> T</span><br />G<span style="color:red;background-color:#fcc;">  A</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> &amp;lt;-&amp;gt;</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> A</span><br />On the other hand, if an item showing is 315.1, for example, with no CRS value below it. That means that you have an insertion compared to the CRS (practically everybody does have ]]></description>
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If FTDNA results were uploaded to Ysearch using the automated upload feature, not entered by hand, you may append \"?providerkey=XXXXX\" to the Ysearch URL, where \"XXXXX\" is the kit number, and if that kit number was the source of an automated upload, then the Ysearch session will be \"primed\" with the corresponding Ysearch ID as the default for such things as looking for genetic matches.<br />
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16235G + 16311C + 16291T is usually H2b, however,<br />16235G + 16311C + 16224C + 16519C is K.<br /><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;">{NOTE:  That would probably be a K, but a rare one. 16235G is only rarely found in K. The old<br />motifs for K were 16224C and 16311C, but that was before 16519C was generally tested.  16224C is the key.}</span><br />It appears that the 16224C and the 16519C are characteristically linked in K and<br />that 16235G + 16291T are characteristically linked in H2b<br />]]></description>
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16311C is common in more than one haplogroup.  --  By itself it is usually H<br />
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16311C + 16519C is also usually H but not H2b<br />
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#SideBar,div.sidebar_v2 { display:none; }<br />Searching SMGF for mtDNA sequences<br /><span style="color:red;background-color:#fcc;">by</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;">Adapted</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> from</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> a</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> GENEALOGY-DNA</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> mailing</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> list</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> post</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> by</span> Ann Turner<br />Assuming that you don't have any mtDNA results from other places.<br />Use the Search by Surname option for the rarest surname in your maternal line (born before 1900), leaving the section for &quot;Values&quot; clear.<br />On the data entry screen, enter &quot;Other&quot; for DNA Testing Company, {your rarest surname} for the surname, and clear the &quot;Values&quot; section.<br /> value.<span style="color:red;background-color:#fcc;">    You</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> You</span> can see the differences from the CRS.<br />If your {rarest} surname is not quite so rare, you may see several results.<span style="color:red;background-color:#fcc;">    Look</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> Look</span> for the result on which the matrilineal names (listed beneath the result) match yours.<span style="color:red;background-color:#fcc;">    Click</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> Click</span> on the 'Pedigree' symbol to the left of that result to determine that it is, ind]]></description>
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Assuming that you don't have any mtDNA results from other places.<br />Use the Search by Surname option for the rarest surname in your maternal line (born before 1900), leaving the section for &quot;Values&quot; clear.<br /> section.<span style="color:red;background-color:#fcc;"> When</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"><br />If</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> your</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> {rarest}</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> surname</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> is</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> rare</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> enough,</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> when</span> you click on Search, the results show where you differ from the CRS, e.g. if for location 16209, the faint font below shows the CRS value.<span style="color:red;background-color:#fcc;"> You</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;">    You</span> can see the differences from the CRS.<span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"><br />If</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> your</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> {rarest}</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> surname</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> is</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> not</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> quite</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> so</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> rare,</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> you</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> may</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> see</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> several</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> results.</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;">    Look</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> for</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> the</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> result</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> on</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> which</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> the</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> matrilineal</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> names</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> (listed</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> beneath</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> th</span>]]></description>
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Use the Search by Surname option for the rarest surname in your maternal line (born before 1900), leaving the section for &quot;Values&quot; clear.<br />On the data entry screen, enter &quot;Other&quot; for DNA Testing Company, {your rarest surname} for the surname, and clear the &quot;Values&quot; section. When you click on Search, the results show where you differ from the CRS, e.g. if for location 16209, the faint font below shows the CRS value. You can see the differences from the CRS.<br /> the<span style="color:red;background-color:#fcc;"> DNA</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> GENEALOGY-DNA</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> mailing</span> list archives using the keywords 'transitions transversions' for more background on why this is so, but the substitutions will generally be back and forth between these pairs:<br />C  T<br />G  A<br />]]></description>
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Use the Search by Surname option for the rarest surname in your maternal line (born before 1900), leaving the section for &quot;Values&quot; clear.<br />On the data entry screen, enter &quot;Other&quot; for DNA Testing Company, {your rarest surname} for the surname, and clear the &quot;Values&quot; section. When you click on Search, the results show where you differ from the CRS, e.g. if for location 16209, the faint font below shows the CRS value. You can see the differences from the CRS.<br /> keywords<span style="color:red;background-color:#fcc;"><br />for</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> 'transitions</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> transversions'</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> for</span> more background on why this is so, but the substitutions will generally be back and forth between these pairs:<br />C  T<br />G  A<br />]]></description>
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If an item showing is 315.1, for example, with no CRS value below it. That means that you have an insertion compared to the CRS (practically everybody does have this, as the CRS has the rare version there). This insertion is in a stretch of C's, so you have 315.1C.<br />When you have entered those non-CRS values in HVR1 and HVR2, then search again. This time you should be a perfect match, with all pink squares and the bases from your query in a bold font.<br /> you<span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> may</span> have<span style="color:red;background-color:#fcc;"> 12</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> many</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> more</span> matches. Some of those show purple squares, where *they* differ from the CRS but you don't (faint font).<br />]]></description>
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